an internal statement
yesterday, i got a pretty angry mail asking me to comment on this article by heinrich, because the title “der bass war so fett dass sich die weiber vor angst in die hose gackten” (”the bass was so fat that the bitches shit their pants in fear”) sounds sexist.
after some reseach, i can now say that this line is actually a sample that was used in a techno song during that night in the flex when heinrich wrote the entry, and it was presented here to show the quality of entertainment there (below zero, faaaar below zero). so it’s not something heinrich wanted to share with you as his personal belief. it’s merely a text passage some subcreative dj used in a subcreative song to amuse some subcultural people.
and now, back to the program.
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oh my god. where’s the fire, what’s the hurry about.
didn’t even imagine a sentence as bad, halarious and politically incorrect would ever be taken seriously.
I’m sorry guys and gals. I was just pissed of by the programm and pissed in the other sense of the word.
quotation marks could have done the thing …
punctuation is one of the first victims of massive alcohol consumation.
lately i heard/read a couple of stories about some humour-impaired guy complaining about alleged, but really non-existant sexism. although it’s surely not true, i like to imagine all these complaints came from one and the same person, who hasn’t got anything else to do. that’s far more compforting than the thought that there are various persons writing such e-mails.
sorry to say that i know the person who complained (cause she talked to me)… so i think it’s more than 1 person.
as tom says, use quotation marks.
and the rest is the old discussion between so-called ‘humour’ and ‘political correctness’.
i think i have some kind of humour _and_ i try to watch my language on a p.c. basis. i works…
didn’t you get the memo that the idea of superficial, no-brains-involved “policical correctness” turned out not to work and the term is banished now?
yes, i read the memo — but it was a gutmenschen-bashin’-right-wing-anything-goes message.
didn’t accept it.
for my personal moral and my personal woldview p.c. works quite well.
oh no, the p.c. discussion has entered the blog! save our souls!
on one side, pc did a lot of good for our society - many people started to think about things like racism only after the idea that you should not use words like “nigger” spread. on the other hand, just changing the language is far from enough, and many people now cover their xenophobia with other words.
also, i expirienced quite a lot of misandrists who tried to cover their actions and beliefs with political correctness - “because it’s good for women, it can’t be wrong” and other stuff like that. most certainly, no phrase hasn’t been abused as much since the third reich. also, i personally believe that concepts like “positive discrimination” damage our society. but that’s stuff for another posting.
grenz, you seem to have missed that i merely objected to using the _term_ “political correctness”. as philipp said, it’s good to get people to think about things like racism. it’s good to help them be more understanding and respectful to each other. but we never needed a new, special term for that. that’s called showing some common sense, or not being a stupid asshole.
“political correctness”, on the other hand — and i’m far from assuming a right-wing-anything-goes standpoint, i’m not even saying positive discrimination _has_ to be a bad idea in every case — has a strong connotation of senseless social customs, FCC rules etc. being “politically correct” is, like, “if you replace every occurence of ‘nigger’ in your pamphlet with ‘different-coloured person’, it’s 1A OK!”
of course this connotation is my own interpretation, but as a matter of fact the senseless behaviour descibed above is exactly what proponents of “political correctness” were doing at the peak of the hype. and then it turned out that destroying the language we use to share thoughts and ideas with each other won’t do much to further mutual understanding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness
kthx, but wtf?
I’m honestly sorry. this didn’t mean to hurt anybody. (except from the dj, I guess *g*).
I never meant to implement ANY sexism to my language.
again my apologies,
h. hinterhalt
@nex
sometimes i think you have to discuss about the origins of a term and the definitions of a term.
most of the horrible german comedians work with very easy anti p.c. mechanisms. why? because there’s a definition. and breaking rules is …hmm…funny… i guess. fuck ‘em…
i like good humour. most anti p.c. humour is not good… it just works like a formula…
i mean, i can’t think of something easier than being anti-p.c.
i had a small contest with a friend. within a minute we had the most anti-p.c. term in history. (i’m not going to post it here.) did it make us happy? no.
but back to our discussion:
basically all people say: “i don’t need p.c. and i fuck p.c. because it’s evil because it affects and constricts my personal freedom.” well, sometimes it’s totally necessary to constrict your personal freedom.
grenz, i don’t have to discuss any of this with you at all, but please note that knowing the origins of a word is helpful in determining wheter it is p.c. (in your well-meaning gutmensch-meaning of the term). for example, imagine you’d believe that the austrian swear word ‘koffer’ was a generic cuss meaning nothing more than ‘idiot’: you’d run the risk of saying something racist without meaning it.
but as good as it is to use proper language that doesn’t insult anyone (whom you didn’t intend to insult), if you say “you should use politically correct language”, it comes across as “you should mindlessly bowdlerise, use newspeak, and put up a shallow facade of tolerance.” the term has been abused so much, it just doesn’t mean what you want it to mean any longer (the page you slapped me with confirms that).
furthermore, while it’s tempting to approve of restricting the personal freedom of people i don’t like, we wouldn’t gain anything by making mario barth, ingo appelt, gaby k